Re: Want to sell copies of Champ?

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Posted by Hans Salvisberg on 2007-06-18 02:54 CET
(In reply to: Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? posted by Christian Klauser on 2007-06-17 15:12 CET)

>> Yea, I've seen an interview on channel9. Although I'm still a bit skeptical about the runtime implications of LINQ, I think that C# will benefit from Hejlsberg being the lead architect.

LINQ is only his latest project. Anders is the man behind Delphi, C++ Builder, and C#. "Visual" C++ did not become visual (in the sense of having components that are active at design time) until he joined Microsoft.

>> Especially the change in programming paradigm of the Window subsystem makes a port look insane.

I'm not sure this is a problem. Running off a message loop was the Win16/Win32 programming paradigm, but Champ successfully worked around that to provide its own sequential model. .NET hides the message loop even more, but it's still there, and I believe it could be wrapped again.

Much bigger issues for a port to .NET are its reliance on WIN16 GDI and on multiple inheritance.

>> integration into VS2005+ would easily be done using project templates

That's promising!

>> when it comes to drawing (especially pixel-by-pixel) I am not sure about the speed implications of an approach using GDI+.

Worrying about speed is exactly the kind of mistake that we made back then when we decided to implement Champ on the WIN16 API. Besides, there is no pixel-by-pixel drawing, unless you explicitly use putpixel(). Everything else uses basic graphics primitives such as lines, circles, and bitblts.

Might you be interested to work on a New Champ?


Current thread:
Want to sell copies of Champ? Christian Klauser 2007-05-29 01:36 CET
Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? Hans Salvisberg 2007-05-31 07:06 CET
Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? Hans Salvisberg 2007-06-11 02:27 CET
Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? Christian Klauser 2007-06-17 15:12 CET
Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? Hans Salvisberg 2007-06-18 02:54 CET
Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? Christian Klauser 2007-06-18 17:01 CET
Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? Christian Klauser 2007-06-26 01:10 CET
Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? Hans Salvisberg 2007-06-26 09:10 CET
Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? Christian Klauser 2007-06-26 12:49 CET
Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? Hans Salvisberg 2007-07-02 03:03 CET
Re: Want to sell copies of Champ? Christian Klauser 2007-07-08 10:52 CET
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